Gina Haspel oversaw a black site torture operation. If she had been German or Japanese and done the same thing during World War II, she would have been hung. Now she’s President Trump’s pick to head the CIA. From the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity at consortiumnews.com:
Two dozen former U.S. intelligence officers urge President Trump to rescind Gina Haspel’s nomination to lead the CIA, citing torture that she oversaw while supervising a black site prison, as well as her role in destroying evidence.
MEMORANDUM FOR: The President
FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
SUBJECT: Request to Withdraw Nomination of Gina Haspel
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
With respect, we veteran intelligence officers from CIA and other agencies urge you to withdraw the nomination of Gina Haspel for CIA director. From what is already known of her leading role in CIA torture 16 years ago, she has disqualified herself.
Gina Haspel
In 2002 Haspel supervised the first CIA “black site” for interrogation, where cruel and bizarre forms of torture were applied to suspected terrorists. And when the existence of 92 videotapes of those torture sessions was revealed, Haspel signed a cable ordering their destruction, against the advice of legal counsel at CIA and the White House.
Does Torture ‘Work?’
We are confident that if you set aside some time to read the unredacted portions of the Senate Intelligence Committee report of 2014 on the torture ordered and supervised by Haspel and other CIA managers, you will change your mind about her nomination. The five-year Senate investigation was based primarily on original CIA cables and other sensitive documents.
In addition to revealing clear violations of the UN Convention Against Torture, the Senate investigation shows that claims by senior CIA officials that torture is effective are far from true. The US Army — in which many of us have served — has been aware of the ineffectiveness of torture for decades.
General John Kimmons, head of Army Intelligence, drove home that point on September 6, 2006 — approximately an hour before President George W. Bush publicly extolled the virtues of torture methods that became known as “enhanced interrogation techniques.” Gen. Kimmons stated: “No good intelligence is going to come from abusive practices. I think history tells us that. I think the empirical evidence of the last five years — hard years — tell us that.”
We believe that Defense Secretary James Mattis’ lack of enthusiasm for torture reflects lessons drawn from the historical experience of the Marine Corps, as well. Not to mention the twin reality that torture brutalizes the brutalizer, and that US use of torture puts our own troops in serious jeopardy when captured. Moreover, there is no more effective recruitment tool than torture to attract more terrorists.
To continue reading: Trump Should Withdraw Haspel Nomination, Intel Vets Say
STRAIGHT LINE LOGIC 
The verdict is in, torture doesn’t work? Common sense says differently. It worked on Jockstrap McStain in Vietnam.
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Ilsa Koch
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The effects are so ineffective that the US military had to change its policies regarding surrendering information while under torture demonstrating its effectiveness. Besides, its been used for hundreds of years because a method that fails is employed because well we love torture. Right. That’s why every one employs it and the greater the threat the quicker its employment.
But the same pantywaists who do not hesitate to recommend the use of weapons that could kill tens of millions are horrified at the prospect of torture, because you know ripping unborn babies apart is a woman’s right to choose and not unspeakable torture.
Remember how the widespread use of torture by US troops during Vietnam resulted in the torture sessions by the NVA? Maybe in Kerry’s drug induced dreams. Or the wonderful treatment given to American troops by the North Koreans during the Korean War.
By the way, what constitutes torture? Is it playing “She wore a little bittiy, yellow polka dot bikini” over and over again? Listening to Obama bray “we are the one’s we have been waiting for” on a loop? Perhaps its subjecting someone to endless repeats of Letterman or CNN? My favorite torture is forcing someone to endure any full Pelosi or Schumer speech. It reduces the sane to a pile of groaning mush in about three minutes.
And as anyone knows the best intelligence was not provide by jihaddies after providing them with 72 virgins and a seven course meal except in the fever swamps of Ron Paul’s vast interrogation experience. And perfumed prince among perfumed princes Kimmon, who managed to secure such brilliant intelligence during the Obama regime is someone who’d I would always cite as an expert on the effectiveness of torture.
But again this is why poison was provided to U2 and other selected operatives. Because we all knew that torture was worse than useless.
And kiddies that’s why the IRS doesn’t use fear or torture. And if you believe that skippy, go pet your pet unicorn and get that pot of gold from some small Irish folklore hero.
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