Doug “Uncola” Lynn shows that the best strategy for arguing with either RINOs or Cultural Marxists may be not to argue with them at all. From Lynn at theburningplatform.com:
As I’ve written of before, I’m part of a group of men that meet for breakfast on some weekends as a result of our shared involvement in a community organization. A few weeks ago, I dined with two of the men who seemed genuinely excited about the upcoming Blue Wave they believe will occur in the November midterm elections.
One of the men, a business owner self-identifying as a Republican, said that after much thought and analysis, Hillary Clinton would have made a better president than Donald Trump. The other man, who is a physician, is by any definition a rainbow-flag waving Cultural Marxist.
When I explained to them my perspectives, they said I needed to “quit watching the lies on Fox News”. At one point during our conversation, the RINO (Republican in Name Only) said the Deep State did not exist. When I asked if he would acknowledge the influence of unelected government officials throughout the “swamp”, he simply stated again “there was no Deep State”.
And so began conversations that extended over the next several days.
When I told them “it wasn’t just Fox News” and texted them both links to books documenting the corruption of the Clintons and the existence of the Deep State – the RINO said he would read none of it.
I replied with: “Most people don’t want to know, and that’s why a Blue Wave is possible”.
At this point, the conversation bifurcated into separate exchanges: One with the RINO and the other with the Doctor.
For me, it was just another couple of online shitfests. Yawn.
I began by showing how the phony Russian investigation was utilized to undermine Candidate Trump and later to subvert the constitutionally elected president. At the same time, I addressed the apparent collusion between the shadow state and the handful of corporations which I called Mainstream Media.
I also addressed the Uranium One scandal as well as the inappropriateness of Rod Rosenstein, Robert Mueller, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, and others in the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Department of Justice (DoJ) investigating Donald Trump.
My RINO friend, in turn, brought up how Ukraine gave both Paul Manafort (former Trump Campaign Chair) and the Podesta brothers (Democratic Party Lobbyist + Hillary Clinton Campaign Chair) money as a way to “hedge their bets across the board”.
In response, I pointed out that only those with ties to Trump were being prosecuted and how Manafort’s indictments, and trial, had provided “great media cover” for the April 2018 congressional criminal referrals of James Comey, Hillary Clinton, Loretta Lynch, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page.
As we continued our conversation by texting, I was surprised when my RINO friend, out of apparent respect for me, said he ordered Jerome R. Corsi’s book “Killing the Deep State”. I told him I’d not read that book but, for the record, I considered Trump as the manifestation of one of the following three possibilities:
A.) The Real Thing
B.) Serving the agenda of the global financial elite unwittingly
C.) Controlled opposition as a Judas Goat or Trojan Horse
If B or C, he was installed to bleed the remaining air out of the brake-lines before America’s “big stop”. If A, then Trump was truly at war against the Financial-Military Industrial Complex.
The RINO said it could actually be “D”, that Trump was an “incompetent boob”, and added that it wasn’t logical for the Deep State, even if it existed, to have allowed both the U.S. house and senate to go “red” – because, if everything I said was true, then – didn’t that prove the Deep State didn’t exist?
He said: “Logic, Dude. Logic”.
As a continuation of our previous conversations, where I claimed Trump may have been installed as a modern day Herbert Hoover, I asked my friend, the RINO: “Why Hillary? What has she done, ever, except stand by her man, the only president in modern times to have been impeached for lying under oath. Why rig the primaries for Hillary and not Bernie?”
“Logic.” I said: “Logic”.
The RINO then said “if the federal government was that powerful, the people would revolt”.
I responded that I believed fractional reserve banking had centralized financial power via a small of group of titans operating out of the International Bank of Settlements and that the Captive Corporate Media prohibited any revolt via misinformation and by the hypnotic power of suggestion. Toward that end, I also referenced the authors Carroll Quigley and Edward Bernays:
In time the (the “Order”) brought into their financial network the provincial banking centers, organized as commercial banks and savings banks, as well as insurance companies, to form all of these into a single financial system on an international scale which manipulated the quantity and flow of money so that they were able to influence, if not control, governments on one side and industries on the other.
Quigley, Carroll. “Tragedy and Hope: The History of the World in Our Time”
...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.
Bernays, Edward. “Propaganda”
My RINO friend said he might believe me “if people couldn’t publish freely on the internet, but that Trump’s election proved the Deep State was not in control”. He said four of the current top ten New York Times best sellers were written by conservatives and that there was no (First Amendment) “suppression in the United States, the banning of Alex Jones notwithstanding”.
I claimed the “free internet” had been under assault since Trump’s election and that “fake news” was the excuse for censorship which was launched with the “PropOrNot” Washington Post article on Thanksgiving Day 2016. I furthermore sent him links showing how Facebook has suppressed 93% of traffic to conservative websites since Trump’s win, Twitter’s shadow-banning, et al.
He, in turn, said these were “companies” and “not the government”.
I said, even so, companies like Facebook and The Washington Postwere CIA assets – and that, in the end, “real suppression was taking place that could in fact change the outcome of the 2018 Midterm Elections”.
He claimed that corporate censorship “has been going on forever”, but the “Republicans are now in control of government, the economy was soaring, unemployment is at an all-time low, and that I was I going “off the rails” with my Orwellian conspiracy theories.
I expressed my concerns over rising deficits, and the existing debt, and asked why rates have been raised on Trump seven times, but never under Obama. I also pointed out how Democratic National Committee (DNC) chairman, Tom Perez, recently anointed the Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the “future of the Democratic Party” as well as Cortez’s recent statement that “capitalism will not always exist”.
It wasn’t me “going off the rails”, after all. So good luck with that large Blue Wave.
Soon after that particular weekend textfest, so began another conversation after Trump’s former campaign chair, Paul Manafort, was found guilty of “five counts of tax fraud, one count of failure to file a report of foreign bank and financial accounts and two counts of bank fraud”.
This time, our text exchange lined-up as the RINO’s Trump guilt by association via Manafort, Stormy Daniels, and Michael Cohen, versus my documented claims of FISA Abuse and Spygate; whereby I excoriated Mueller’s unlimited mandate to seek out crimes in spite of Statute 28 CFR 600 (grounds for appointed a special counsel) that required a crime to have taken place first; how Rosenstein, Mueller, and Comey all colluded to transition a counter-intelligence investigation into Russian collusion, then obstruction, and then into Cohen’s taxi medallion escapades and the financial crimes by Manafort – even as Tony Podesta was yet to see the inside of a court room.
When the RINO questioned my “emotional stability”, I responded thusly:
All is well, in spite of the ongoing soft coup against a sitting president framed by a fabricated Russian dossier, and perpetrated by the most shameless and corrupt officials ever to have sullied the highest government offices of this once great nation; and the subsequent cover-up by the Corporate Mainstream Media.
Obviously, no minds were changed.
As mentioned before, I was also texting with the Doctor as I engaged the RINO in the above exchanges.
In response, I pointed out the following two “Big Buts” from the so-called “fact check” article:
But there is no evidence that the donations or the [Bill Clinton] speaking fee had any influence on the approvals granted by the NRC or the Committee on Foreign Investments…
But, as we’ve written before, there is no evidence that donations to the Clinton Foundation from people with ties to Uranium One or Bill Clinton’s speaking fee influenced Hillary Clinton’s official actions.
I showed that Attorney General Eric Holder was on the “Committee on Foreign Investment” at the time the Uranium One deal was approved and, furthermore, provided link-attribution for the following facts:
The investigation was ultimately supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, now the deputy FBI director under Trump, Justice Department documents show.
“Who really demonstrated collusion with the Russians?” I asked. “And given that Robert Mueller was the head of the FBI then, why are he and Rosenstein allowed to investigate Trump when Trump’s pick for Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, had to recuse himself from the Russian investigation?”
“What the hell is up with that?” I wondered.
The Doctor then argued that Peter Schweizer, the author of “Clinton Cash” was a friend of Steve Bannon and that the book was “full of accusations, but short on facts”. He also said the Republicans were “waist deep in any corruption too”.
I responded by agreeing that Republicans like John McCain and Lindsey Graham were corrupt “neoconic warmongers” just like the Doctor’s hero, Hillary. Fuck them.
To which he replied that he “wanted facts, not conspiracy theories”.
I said it was a fact that Hillary Clinton broke laws, but that now it was the people surrounding Trump who were being prosecuted, that a “two-tiered legal system” meant that America had become a lawless nation, and yet the Political Left cared more for bathroom rights. “Even Obama was against that before he was for it”, I said.
The Doctor said there was “no law against using a private server” and the only ones who cared about “bathroom rights” were “paranoid conservatives who want to frighten and divide people”.
I said: “Even so, engaging in identity politics and advocating for bathroom rights are cases of “misplaced priorities, wouldn’t you agree?”
In response, he said I shouldn’t be so obsessed with Hillary, because she lost. He sent me an NPR link on Trump’s “Money Laundering”and argued that I should, instead, focus on the following:
…a U.S. President who is controlled by the Russian government because they have been using him [Trump] for 30 years to launder dirty money for the Russian mob…
I responded by saying: “I thought you only wanted to discuss “facts” and not conspiracy theories?”
Additionally, I cited the facts showing the only “collusion” that took place was FISA Abuse and Spygate – and that FBI texts pointed to Obama’s knowledge of operation “Crossfire Hurricane”: Which was nothing less than a sitting president spying on a presidential candidate. Moreover, I added that the Russian investigation was designed to “cover the tracks” of the guilty parties; “a fact that fair-minded liberals would acknowledge”; especially if it were Bush the Younger who spied on Obama.
The Doctor said the facts didn’t support any of my conclusions.
In return, I said those were “the ONLY facts” in the Russia investigation and told him to read the Inspector General’s report; and that he was “dreaming of money laundering schemes” while I was quoting actual occurrences from the public record.
“Why was FBI agent Peter Strzok fired, if there was no evidence?” I asked, before adding: “You and Robert Mueller are the only ones who don’t have evidence, my friend”.
“The FISA warrant was for Carter Page, not Trump”, said the Doctor.
“Right around the time they thought Trump could win”, said I. “Why is Carter Page still a free man?”
“The OIG (Office of Inspector General) report does not support or conclude that Obama spied on Trump”, said the Doctor.
I replied in kind: “The OIG report delineated the cover-up of Hillary Clinton’s e-mails, but FISA Abuse and Spygate are still being investigated”; and that “those crimes were bigger than Watergate”, yet all the Doctor’s concerns were for Paul Manafort’s financial improprieties that had nothing to do with any alleged Russian collusion by Trump.
Then we descended into a debate over former FBI agent Peter Strzok’s changing of Hillary’s “gross negligence” (i.e. a crime) to “extremely careless”, the phony Russian dossier, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Rosenstein’s redactions and stalling, etc., before the Doctor wrongly stated that Comey changed the “gross negligence” language along with this little gem:
The Russian dossier has actually been proven true for the most part, not bogus.
I, in turn, provided documentation showing that it was, indeed, Peter Strzok who changed the language in order to exonerate Hillary prior to the election. I also described the collusion behind the creation of the bogus Russian dossier.
The Doctor then said the OIG report found no evidence that Strzok’s political beliefs affected his work; to which I responded by asking:
“Then why did Strzok change the language to exonerate Hillary?” and “Why did Strzok get fired?”
From there, we entered into a discussion regarding FISA applications, FBI 302 forms, and 1023 counterintelligence documentation that still remain classified; as well as other documents that have been heavily redacted. I teased the Doctor that I thought Trump was either waiting for the right moment to make these unclassified, or perhaps the Donald didn’t want to “taint the midterm elections out of fairness”.
The Doctor said all of that documentation would prove that Trump “conspired with the Russians to take down Hillary”.
Even so, I wondered: “Why didn’t Rosenstein recuse himself like Sessions, given that Rosenstein (according the OIG report) signed at least one of the FISA applications on Trump?”
“Collusion”, said I, “that’s why”.
The Doctor replied: “Trump asked Russia on national TV to find the [Hillary] e-mails and, the next day, Russia released the e-mails”.
Obviously the Doctor conflated Wikileaks with Russia, and even so, it wasn’t the next day, but I decided to stay on track:
“Bruce Ohr’s wife worked for Fusion GPS, the same firm that Hillary Clinton used to create the fake dossier on Trump. There’s your documented collusion”, I said, before adding: “Obama weaponized the FBI and DoJ against a Republican presidential candidate. It’s the largest scandal in the history of the United States and one that Robert Mueller is now attempting to cover up. If the Democrats win this fall, they might get away with it”.
The Doctor said that the Inspector General’s report proved that everything I just said was a lie, that the FBI was investigating Clinton (not Trump) and “if that was weoponizing the FBI against Trump, then Obama must have wanted Trump to win”.
He added: “The FBI said NOTHING about investigating Trump for ANYTHING before the election” and what I “was saying made no sense”. In fact, the Doctor claimed, everything I said “proved that it was actually TRUMP” who was “trying to divert attention AWAY from Mueller” because “he [Trump] knows he is guilty”.
In response to that, I brought up the FBI mole, Stefan Halper, the Ohrs again, and how the investigation into Hillary was designed to absolve Hillary prior to the election; even as the Russian counterintelligence investigation was executed as an “insurance policy” in order to undermine Trump; both before and after the election.
The Doctor said I “should read the OIG report” and I countered back that “I did read the report” and that it fully supported “the criminal referrals to congress for these people: James Comey, Hillary Clinton, Loretta Lynch, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page”.
Obviously, again, no minds were changed.
The above summation was the result of quotations from actual discussions, transcriptions of exact texts, and recollections from additional conversations. Although some of it was moderately paraphrased for purposes of illustration and cadence, I would say it is 95% to 99% accurate; with any errors attributed to, perhaps, the bias of my own perspective in understanding their positions.
That said, although my breakfast companions have forthrightly repudiated my statements of facts, my link-attributed documentation, my opinions, and my political views at this time, they would, however, concede that the above exchanges were narrated accurately for the most part, and, by and large, delineated here in the correct order, with near 100% accuracy. Perhaps the only exceptions they could make would be with some of my paraphrasing of our dialogue, but even then, they would have to admit that none of the original intent, or meaning, was eliminated from any of the above recitations.
So what’s the point?
It is this: I used enjoy many things. Now? Not so much. Gradually, and over time, the things I once enjoyed have become tarnished. First it was Saturday Night Live, then football, and now it has become most movies, TV shows, and late night talk shows. What was sewn into the U.S. educational system decades ago has now sullied everything from personal identity, to personal relations, to politics. Everything the Political Left has touched, it has turned to shit.
The English journalist and satirist, Malcom Muggeridge, described the befoulment as:
A solvent rather than a precipitate, a sedative rather than a stimulant, a slough rather than a precipice; blurring the edges of truth, the definition of virtue, the shape of beauty; a cracked bell, a mist, a death wish…
– Muggeridge, Malcolm. “The Great Liberal Death Wish – (1979)
And, for these reasons, the decline of the West:
Thus did Western Man decide to abolish himself, creating his own boredom out of his own affluence, his own vulnerability out of his own strength, his own impotence out of his own erotomania, himself blowing the trumpet that brought the walls of his own city tumbling down… Until at last, having educated himself into imbecility, and polluted and drugged himself into stupefaction, he keeled over–a weary, battered old brontosaurus–and became extinct.
― Muggeridge, Malcolm. “Vintage Muggeridge: Religion and Society”
In addition to our conversations on Trump, my “friends” have lectured me on my “racism and white privilege”; even as they burn with hate for the likes of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, former presidential candidate Herman Cain, former Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke, and actress Stacey Dash.
Who are these “friends” to tell me that I’m a racist, but they are not?
The aforementioned doctor has asked our group to not use straws to drink juice at breakfast because they harm dolphins. Yet, he supports a woman’s “right to choose” because fish are more worthy than fetuses? Really?
And he’s a doctor.
Indeed. It is an Orwellian Brave New World. And perhaps one that deserves to implode, because as most everyone reading this knows, the foolishness has become pandemic.
To the left, there is no logic, no rationality, no law, no accountability, no common sense, and no right or wrong because everything is political to them based upon their instinct alone. The Manufactured Reality of the Hive Mind has become a religion. And the hypocrisy is boundless.
The forthcoming 2018 Midterm Elections will mark the point of no return in the United States because, no matter who wins the “allegorical argument”, the marriage is headed for a divorce.
A house divided will not stand.
America’s ideological breach is no longer funny, or cute; and, even now, in the company of those who I consider friends, I’m not laughing anymore.